Episode 46
An Attorney and a Gentleman
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An Attorney and a Gentleman

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No, not an oxymoron. Discussion with Steve Densley Jr. on depression, apostasy, apologetics.

An Attorney and a Gentleman

Show Notes: 

STEVE DENSLEY, J.D. is an attorney, author, and the Executive Vice President of the Interpreter Foundation, an organization that supports the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints through reliable scholarship. He has published articles in the Utah Bar Journal, the Journal of Law and Family Studies, Interpreter: A Journal of Latter-day Saint Faith and Scholarship, and Meridian Magazine. He was the Executive Vice President of FairMormon from 2013-15, a recipient of the John Taylor Defender of the Faith Award, and was a producer of FairMormon’s podcast when it twice won the People’s Choice Award for Best Podcast in the Religion & Spirituality category. He has served as an Elders Quorum President, High councilor, Young Men’s President, Gospel Doctrine Teacher, and is currently the 1st Counselor in his Ward’s Bishopric.

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Should We Apologize For Apologetics? by Steve Densley


This is a Woman's Church by Sharon Eubank


*QUOTE FROM JOSEPH SMITH (as reported by Daniel Tyler)

“When the Prophet had ended telling how he had been treated, Brother Behunin remarked: ‘If I should leave this Church I would not do as those men have done: I would go to some remote place where Mormonism had never been heard of, settle down, and no one would ever learn that I knew anything about it.’

“The great Seer immediately replied: ‘Brother Behunin, you don’t know what you would do. No doubt these men once thought as you do. Before you joined this Church you stood on neutral ground. When the gospel was preached, good and evil were set before you. You could choose either or neither. There were two opposite masters inviting you to serve them. When you joined this Church you enlisted to serve God. When you did that you left the neutral ground, and you never can get back on to it. Should you forsake the Master you enlisted to serve, it will be by the instigation of the evil one, and you will follow his dictation and be his servant.'" 

*Daniel Tyler, in “Recollections of the Prophet Joseph Smith,” Juvenile Instructor, Aug. 15, 1892, pp. 491–92; punctuation and grammar modernized.





  • d

    Mar 18, 2019 4:42 am

    Interesting talk that got me to thinking. Particularly the part about people with emotional disorders got me thinking that they need healing, not opposition. Which made me think that the same is also true of all those who leave the church and fight against it.
    And whenever you are talking about healing, you are talking about Jesus Christ.

  • Darryl White

    Mar 21, 2019 4:34 am

    I tuned into something called the Mormon Stories Podcast, after seeing it on a billboard, but dropped it after I realized that they were talking on the assumption that the Book Of Mormon was a fabrication.
    Can someone provide links to some good LDS podcasts out there? I mean besides ForeverLDS.

    RESPONSE FROM CHRIS: There are not many. I enjoy LDSPerspectives, although you sometimes feel as though you are entering the conversation in the middle and it takes time to understand what they are talking about. FAIR and Interpreter also offer a nice selection of podcast "channels", mostly along a scholarly vein, but sometimes with guests or topics similar what I do on ForeverLDS. In reality, as far as a faith-based podcast with the freedom to take a creative (light-hearted) turn from time to time, I seem to be the only game in town. If you find someone else, let me know. The pie is BIG and I would welcome any voices that seek to do what we are doing. The Gospel needs as many faithful comers as it can produce. :) Another one you might check out, although it has only a couple episodes, is "Gifted and Lifted". This sort of prides itself on being "not necessarily" LDS-based, but so far its guests have both been LDS. Also, I've heard that Meridian Magazine has a new podcast, but as far as I can guy, it's objective is simply to offer material in support of the "Come Follow Me" curriculum, which is certainly a noble objective. Interpreter Foundation has a similar channel.
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